Karl: So if we want the truths…, we have to look for them in an “uncontaminated” system.
robbymac: However, good luck finding an “uncontaminated” source other than the Bible! Mankind and our sinfulness gets in the way too easily—hence the need for discernment.
Karl: Ah, yes! But you and I already have the Bible and don’t agree.
So there has to be something else, something more than the mere words of Scripture or “discernment” (since I’ll assume that all of us take our faith seriously, pray for the Holy Spirit’s guidance, etc).
We need a holistic interpretation and context for the Bible. And that doesn’t take “luck”—just eyes to see and faith that God is powerful enough to keep his promises to give us what we need in this regard.
Say, the Church, perhaps?